Kirstin

When I first saw Harry Miree a couple years ago, it hit me how his drum layout is very close to Holland's. He started slowly rearranging his kit shortly after moving to Tennessee. I've always assumed that Holland was one of his key inspirations for doing that. P.S. Nod to Holland playing for Carl Perkins too. I have a couple old Carl Perkins albums that Mom had collected way back. Put Your Cat Clothes On! Oh and here is Holland backing Carl. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s8mQekpakQ

Yes, they will. I'm feeling remarkably at one with the universe today. 2023 must have finally let me get my hooks in for the ride. Still playing open handed though...

Right. I tend to forget that not all e-rides have 3 zones like mine did. Did. In the past. Now I have none. 😞 But I have 12 to 14 weeks to work on rudiments! 🥁 There's the key right there. Finding what works. Every day I practice has some exploration built into it. I do what the instructor says to do first, and get that down. Then I explore different ways to accomplish the same thing. Then I make variations around the kit with it.

The rest of the article is solid, but I admit, this part confuses the heck out of me too. I've worked it all sorts of ways in my head and can't make sense of this. It also contradicts what he says in paragraph two of "What is open handed drumming." I think he may have got himself turned around here and didn't catch it in editing. I admit that my two hand fills are small and fit a pretty strict formula for the moment. Compared to other aspects of drumming, I'm still relatively new to fills, but I'm already being very mindful of what works vs what doesn't. I think about ways to do these short chunk fills properly or I think up ways to tailor these short chunk fills to me. When I get those down, I'll start increasing the size of the fills and the number of drums involved. Baby steps.

BTW, not to hijack this post, but a quick aside related to the last student social talk... @David @Bob @Richard L I successfully sold my Roland. A church contacted me 10 minutes after I put it up on Craigslist and 20 minutes after the Church agreed that no, they don't want to pay 9k for a new VAD707, and directed their sound guy/drummer to look for used one. Divine intersection?

Sorry @David I edited the post out from under you LOL.

You illustrated exactly what I was trying to explain above. If it is logical lead with the right hand, then lead with the right. If it is logical to lead with left, do that. It took me near a year of OH for it to suddenly dawn on me that I'm not locked in, either way and my evil south paw doesn't have to matter unless I want it to. I also consider lead and dominant separate and was trying to use them specifically to make my point that OH makes it awkward to follow a particular dominant hand but crossed over isn't a limitation on choice of lead hand either.

Splitting the kit is what I do most of the time but I learned it from watching Claus Hessler and listening to some of his lessons on drumeo. The New Breed is on my to-do list, eventually. I'm working on three other books of interest at the moment. It is a nice way to compartmentalize what you are doing with either hand.

Ok I follow what you are saying. What side is your crash on? My layout is the ride is directly to the left and overlapping my HH and the left hand 18 crash is in front of the HH. Then I have a 16 crash on the right side of the kit where the ride normally is. Right after you posted I took this upstairs to the kit and played around with it. I didn't have any issues with stick crossing. The first method I used was to play it with the left hand on the HH and crash with right hand on the snare. Then I played it with left hand on hats and right hand on the snare on beat 2. Then a left hand drop onto the snare on beat 4 with the right hand on the right hand crash. Method 2 works but if Method 1 is available, better to do that. If you have no left hand crash, you have two other options. Crash the edge of the ride (tastefully), or open your hats fully and edge crash the hat on beat 4. 😁 That is what I would do in a pinch with no left hand crash.

@Eyal I don't have the second book yet, but I think you will like the first book a lot. As for lead hand being trivial in one style or the other, I think that depends on the drummer. There's no real difference between the styles except one supports a dominant hand, and the other makes it awkward to maintain a dominant hand.

I do! 😎 🥁✌️🏴‍☠️ In all seriousness, though. Other than dynamics independence (playing hard with one hand, soft with the other), I don't understand what you mean by 'avoid touching each other.'